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Re: Systems

Postby soccer_king on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:24 am

Or, if you don't want to take the time and do all the work of creating your own system, you can get somebody who knows what they're doing to trust you, then you can either swipe their system, or simply take their advice. It takes a bit more people skills, but if that's your cup of tea, you could always go that way. :D
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Re: Systems

Postby rowdypixel on Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:30 am

You are a tricky one, soccer_king!

That's probably not the best idea in the world. People who steal others' systems is why there are so few truly remarkable systems out there for anybody to just adopt. (that, and if you find a good, consistent system, you naturally want to keep it to yourself. After all, if you can accurately predict the outcome of a game, and win money by doing so, why would you give everyone else that skill as well? ;)). However, there aren't too many people who would take kindly to someone kidnapping their system, and if they ever found out (and happened to be a bit crazy :P), you just might find yourself with trouble on your hands.
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Re: Systems

Postby soccer_king on Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:05 pm

I guess you have a point there. I didn't really mean that it was a good idea to befriend someone just to steal their betting system, but it's certainly not an unheard of method. It seems to me that it's a bit of a sneaky and underhanded method, which does absolutely no good for the 'sport' of betting, but there are always bad apples in a bunch.

Also, half the fun of betting is figuring out which team will win (the other half, of course, is winning money. :D)
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Re: Systems

Postby rowdypixel on Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:22 pm

Yeah, I wouldn't advocate trying to steal somebody else's system without permission. It's does nothing helpful for anybody, and it really hurts the general reputation of people who bet. I would suggest coming up with your own system. You can have somebody who has already developed a successful system aid you in the create of your system, but just outright stealing it isn't something I recommend.
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Re: Systems

Postby soccer_king on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:36 pm

Yes. Don't steal other's systems. It's not good for anybody. You may think it benefits you, but if you steal, and they find out (especially if they 'update' the system to make it so you lose all the time), then you're in a lot of trouble. ;)
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Re: Systems

Postby rowdypixel on Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:00 am

Yes, there are AI systems, but those are no smarter than the people who made it. Plus, if you find any problems in the AI system, it is far harder to adjust your results than it is if you have a human system (Unless, of course, you have the ability to change the system - for example, it was a system you created yourself).
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Re: Systems

Postby soccer_king on Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:25 am

rowdypixel wrote:Yes, there are AI systems, but those are no smarter than the people who made it. Plus, if you find any problems in the AI system, it is far harder to adjust your results than it is if you have a human system (Unless, of course, you have the ability to change the system - for example, it was a system you created yourself).

AI system may be slightly harder to adapt, but they've been around long enough for people to adjust them to be at least reasonably accurate. I wouldn't expect 100% accuracy from any system, but I wouldn't discount and AI just because you couldn't personally change it.
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Re: Systems

Postby rowdypixel on Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:17 am

I suppose you have a valid point. Computers have made leaps and bounds performance wise over the past several decades, and while it software development and AI are developing slight slower, they have still come a very, very long way since comptuers started becoming popular. I don't know anyone who could say that computer will be replacing humans any time soon, but by now I can believe that an AI system would be adaptive enough that an effective AI prediction system could be created. It would be expensive, but possible.
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Re: Systems

Postby microslots on Sat May 17, 2008 2:23 am

I wouldn't ever trust a computer to determine where I place my bets. I like to watch the games, go through highlight reels, research injuries, etc, and then decide which team I think has a better chance. It may take a bit more time, but I would trust my brain over a computer any day.
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Re: Systems

Postby sportsfan on Wed May 28, 2008 12:46 pm

Computers are more accurate than you think. I see no reason to discount a team simply because a computer tells you so. There are many different ways for a computer to determine which team is better. You can run simulations of the game, or even just run calculations for each player. The other advantage is, as long as the programming is correct, the numbers you get will be accurate. Computers don't make mathematical errors. (though if the algorithm is wrong, you won't get the number you were hoping for)
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